Ep 179 – Being a Leader Inside of Your Team

In this High-Performance Podcast for Real Estate Agents, Josh Phegan and Alexander Phillips discuss being a leader inside of your team. Josh starts with reasons you need to build soft human skills, and Alex offers his tips on running a great team and leading from the top. Josh talks about helping other team members step up and take leadership roles, and Alex tells why it’s important to expand your territory in this market so you can increase volume and keep writing deals.

Josh notes the importance of maintaining momentum after you make a big sale, Alex tells how he keeps his momentum up through bouncy attendance numbers for open for inspections, and they discuss keeping focused on looking forward and reinvesting in yourself.

It’s Stage Not Age

The biggest challenge for our industry is that people think in terms of being too old or too young to be effective. In my Coaching Tip this week I’ll show you why it’s stage not age that determines your development as a great agent.

The reality is that you don’t need accountability if you take responsibility for making things happen. You need to know which stage you’re at and what steps to take next to improve. These stages will also come about in a different order than you expect.

I’ll give you five key skills that will give you the freedom to become a great agent, and it all begins with becoming a great lister. Everything else you do in your career will depend on your ability to list.

The ultimate story is about what you’re going to do for the client. Once you know this, then you can really execute. I’ll illustrate why roleplay is the best way to practice the essential elements you need to know and turn that knowledge into skill.

It’s stage not age, and it’s all based on your energy, your tenacity for learning, your hunger for change, growth and development, and your desire to become a better agent.

I hope you’ve enjoyed today’s Coaching Tip, and I look forward to seeing you here again next week.

Ep 178 – Disruptions Inside of Your Career

This High-Performance Podcast for Real Estate Agents features Josh Phegan and Alexander Phillips on disruptions inside of your career and how to trade through those periods. They discuss the benefits of pre-planning with the unexpected in mind. Alex outlines how he sits down with clients to outline events that can affect the market, and how to use these events as negotiation tools. Josh notes that some agents use disruptions as an excuse for a lack of performance, and Alex tells how to get through those periods well.

They discuss reasons for the increase in numbers of investors this year from last year, Alex explains negative gearing, and Josh reminds us to make sure you know what’s happening inside of your diary, schedule options 12 months in advance, and secure pre-commitments.

Obsess About The Customer

Between your customer and your competition, one will pay your invoice whilst the other simply annoys you. In my Coaching Tip this week I’ll show you why it pays to obsess about the customer and what it is that you do for them.

Think about how you drive the value of what you do as an agent to make it easy for your customer. If they could press a button and everything around buying or selling their home would just get done, they’d do it. You want to be that button.

The problem arises when you come in to play your part in that role without thinking about all the other people who are critical to getting the deal together. Think of the customer journey and have those conversations with the client around all the steps they’re going to need to take.

The customer experience you deliver is what sets you apart from your competition. It’s not about what you promote, it’s about your service standard and what the client experiences with you as it happens.

Some agents look to other agents for inspiration around what to do on social or in the letterbox, or what fees to charge. In reality the only important thing is what you can do for your customer. When you start to obsess about the customer is when your business will rapidly start to grow.

I hope you’ve enjoyed today’s Coaching Tip, and I look forward to seeing you here again next week.

Activities or Outcomes

As a business leader you must be clear about the strategy and the scoreboard inside of your business. In this month’s Growth, Leadership and Management Tip I’m talking about activities and outcomes that everyone inside of your organisation must be clear on.

You may have everything mapped inside of your head, but your people can’t know how to execute unless you communicate that map to them, so we’re going to look at the key numbers you’ll be going after.

I’ll explain how to measure the effectiveness of the activities you’re doing by three specific outcomes. The most important conversation is around which activities will get you more buyer appointments, marketplaces, and listing appointments per salesperson. This then gives you your listing, sales and income production numbers.

The goal is for your people to list more than they sell on a weekly and monthly basis. The real question here is, are the people inside of your business focused on activities or outcomes? Your job is to make sure they’re clear on what their primary measurements should be.

When you look at your dashboard you’ll know how to adjust, but you’ve got to have that dashboard first. Get clear on the numbers that are important, be specific around what you measure and the frequency of those measurements, and you will keep your team on track.

I hope you’ve enjoyed this month’s Growth, Leadership, and Management Tip, and I look forward to seeing you here again next month.

Richard Luton

Welcome to The Black & White Interviews, a Josh Phegan initiative to showcase the top agents we work within Australia, New Zealand, the UK and the USA. Our next Black & White interview series will feature Richard Luton, Managing Director of Luton Properties.

  • Began his career in 1993
  • Total number of sales in a year = 129
  • Has 9 offices based in the Canberra region with over 160 staff
  • Average days on market is 30
  • 75% Auction vs Private Sale
  • Advice for new agents: Be consistent, communicate well, exercise, energy and passion.
  • Overcoming challenges: Always being positive and a great communicator.

We wanted the opportunity to showcase the top agents we get to work with and share their secrets and insights of how they have become exceptional agents in their marketplace and made their way to the top. Each month we will feature a new agent. The full-length version of these interviews will be available exclusively to Josh Phegan Members, giving you a great opportunity to learn and grow from the top agents and their strategies for becoming million dollar agents.

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Ep 177 – Solving the Right Problems

In this High-Performance Podcast for Real Estate Agents, Josh and Alexander Phillips discuss solving the right problems by first recognising them. Alex shares how he knows what the real problems are and analyzes them, and fixes them. Josh tells how to get focused and set rules around what you do and don’t do. He gives examples of key problems, and Alex outlines how he solves problems quickly and reduces time on the market.

They discuss problem-solving in the context of auctions, why that’s the best sales method for the current market, and how to approach it as a business plan for selling your house. Josh ends with an emphasis on getting clear on the essentials and working your systems.

The Real Deal

The 5-8 year short term debt cycle enters its new phase. After unprecedented growth, we move into contraction. Since the GFC world banks have flooded the market with cheap credit. Cheap money leads to an increased supply of cash. People rushed to the banks, borrowed money at low-interest rates and bought. They bought houses, cars, trips overseas, filled those houses with goods and services. It’s been great. Every time you spend, you help someone else earn an income. That’s the growth phase in the economy. As peoples income grow they spend more, asset prices increase with more demand, and generally, the overall population feels wealthy.

You then reach a point, where consumers come to the end of their borrowing capacity. They can’t get an extra $1m from the bank, so in the last run of growth to keep up these new lifestyles, they rush to last-minute financial products, like credit cards and now AfterPay, which is non-assessed credit. They finally realise that they can’t keep spending as they have, and at some stage, they need to start repaying the debt they’ve accumulated.

The mood of the market changes and people begin to repay the debt; they pull in their spending. As they do that peoples income drops as fewer people are spending as much money in the economy, and there begins the contractionary phase of the cycle.

Some people are forced to sell assets, as income drops, they can’t service their loans, and as there are fewer people in the economy to spend cash, asset prices come back. With more supply of houses and less income production, that fuels media speculation about a house price crash. The reality is the government usually then steps in at the appropriate points to help the economy land softly – measures like a first home owner grant, reduction in stamp duty, reduction in interest rates or government grants like the famous $1,000 tv grant, are put in play to re-stimulate the economy. We call that the short term debt cycle, and it happens over and over again over a 5-8 year period. The great thing is once you know it, you can read the market, so you know what to do next. Ray Dalio’s 30-minute video on economic principles is a much watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHe0bXAIuk0

What’s fascinating is media commentary and poorly articulated opinions by market commentators send shockwaves across the general public. In January alone headlines like Auctions no longer work, sets panic into the market. These headlines are backed by stats, 800 properties sold in Sydney this week via for sale, and only eight via auction. Industry specialists know the auction market doesn’t return until mid-February, but yet the unhelpful headlines persist. Remember if for sale is so successful, why they don’t publish a for sale clearance rate at day 28, so we can measure apples with apples? The truth – as days on market increase, great agents need a process to sell properties in 28 days or less.

So here’s how to ride the rapids, and produce more income than ever before, regardless of the economic cycles.

Invest in relationships
The depth of the relationship demonstrates the real needs of the customer. Customers only move if they are dissatisfied, have a vision they are compelled towards and are prepared to make the first steps. You build relationships by being relevant, frequent and consistent. Relevancy determines frequency. When there is a listing or sale, pick up the phone, let your customer know, because you care. Be interested.

The decline of social spends with digital saturation
Technology doesn’t recognise recessions or economic uncertainty. It maintains its progress. However, as it does, plenty is caught out investing in areas that won’t yield results. Social is billed as the great panacea; however, when everyone including retailers and big corporates rushing to attract more of the eyeballs, we start seeing spends increase to get in front of fewer customers as there’s so much demand for eyeballs that can only consume so much social content. The other challenge is curation. Newspapers, when they were at their best, were great, general news was at the front, followed by business, TV guide, classifieds including motoring and real estate then sport. Social, however, is all of that all of the time in no order – it’s a mess at best. Phone addiction is real, and big techs recognition of it is starting. Apple’s release of screen time is making people aware of what they are doing. And anecdotal evidence is people are switching out. Well thought out, engaging content and strategies always win, powerful stories etc., but seeing an agent post about ‘open for inspection life’ has run its course. As incomes contract, my prediction is it’ll be the first things agents cut from their spend.

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Increases in average fee
In the previous set of conditions, it didn’t matter who you chose; properties would sell. In the new market, the agent you employ has a massive bearing on if you’ll get sold. The ability to navigate the conditions of the day, to achieve a sale, to know what to do, make you worth more than you’ve ever been before. Increased service levels, combined with ever precious consumers, clearly demonstrates that leaders will lead, and slowly increase fees. Margins are required, as you need profits to reinvest, to reinvent the service. .5% might not sound a lot, but for some businesses, that’s a 25% increase in total fees per transaction. If volumes drop in sales (which they will in some markets, but not in others) than fee growth is critical for surviving and then thriving.

Mergers and acquisitions
New agencies that have opened over the last five years and have relied on sales income alone to cover fixed costs will have to tighten their budgets. Ideally, you want re-occurring revenue models, like property management and the blended fee like finance, conveyancing and connection referral fees, to drive more revenue. That reoccurring revenue needs to meet fixed costs so that sales revenue can be the profit or cream. Even agencies that bought property management rent rolls will have some challenges, especially if those revenue streams are funding rent roll debt from the purchase and not yet contributing to covering fixed costs. The logical move is mergers with other firms and acquisitions, which is ok, as with scale comes massive opportunities for cost savings and bigger play strategies especially around where Landlords live. New strategies around increasing total customer spend, the lifetime value of a customer and the frequency of spend will nail overall growth.

10-15% fewer agents required
Some heat will come out of boom markets, like project sales, apartment sales and the speculators, which will see in some markets periods of adjustment, requiring fewer agents to service the market. We’re already seeing it. A changing of the guard as some retire, move on or fail to adapt. It’s refreshing as great agents take market share and the great renewal in business savvy agents emerge.

Lead source shift
With fewer attendees generally at open homes, new lead sources will need to be worked. Personal networks, past clients, social proof marketing, and Landlords will create plenty of opportunities if you adapt. If you only rely on opens, you open your business to risk.

Overall this is an incredible market. Australia is one of the best markets in the world. We have a relatively stable government, amazing real estate, tightly controlled credit markets to prevent bank failures, great revenue opportunities and an appetite to buy the great Australian dream.

This is the market when great agents are made. They’ll thrive in these turbulent conditions. With an election, Easter and potential changes to Capital Gains Tax and Negative Gearing there’s plenty to keep ahead of, but we predict that our clients will have the best year of their career by sticking to the basics and placing bit bets on tried and true methods of being a real deal maker.

This article first appeared on Elite Agent: https://eliteagent.com/the-real-deal-josh-phegan/

Ep 176 – Investing In Relationships

This High-Performance Podcast for Real Estate Agents features Josh Phegan and Alexander Phillips on the need for investing in relationships to separate and differentiate from the competition. Alex tells how he builds relationships from the first meeting and explains what service really is. Josh notes that making it better for the customer gets better results than competing on fee, and Alex then illustrates an example of how that works.

Josh describes delivering the customer experience through teaching systems, intensity and focus, and driving momentum and consistency. He defines what a brand really is, and how to create those customer moments that set you apart and get you a better fee.

Ep 175 – Powerful Routines

In this High-PerformancePodcast for Real Estate Agents, Josh and Alexander Phillips discuss powerful routines. Alex begins with building consistency and accountability and doing your daily routines right. Josh notes the importance of counting outcomes as well as activities, and setting intention from the start. Alex emphasises the need to identify the reason why you’re sitting in front of a vendor so that you can effectively progress them.

Josh ties choosing the right lead sources together with momentum and consistency to make conversions. He describes building relationships of relevance, and Alex shares his best three lead sources for generating business.